Podcast with Carlien Cavens

On unplugging, inspiring leaders & finding clarity.

THE EPISODE

We're joined by one of Belgium’s 40 under 40 Carlien Cavens. This ex-McKinsey'er switched careers to find more meaning, and now organizes retreats for top-leaders.  

During this honest conversation, you'll learn about her insights during an 'early midlife crisis', what happens when people decide to let go of their phone and of the state of being 'always busy', and the most remarkable changes that people gone through after her retreats.

Podcast with Carlien Cavens

On unplugging, inspiring leaders & finding clarity.

THE EPISODE

We're joined by one of Belgium’s 40 under 40 Carlien Cavens. This ex-McKinsey'er switched careers to find more meaning, and now organizes retreats for top-leaders.  

During this honest conversation, you'll learn about her insights during an 'early midlife crisis', what happens when people decide to let go of their phone and of the state of being 'always busy', and the most remarkable changes that people gone through after her retreats.

“I often compare it to deep sea diving. Every time you take out your phone during the retreats, you reconnect with that busy life, you go back to the surface. You never really allow yourself to get to the bottom, where the real treasures are.”

Carlien Cavens

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“When the retreat is ending and I give them back their phones, all of them react: "I'm not sure I want it back." It happens many times because they are so much enjoying this feeling of disconnection that they want to keep it longer.

Carlien Cavens

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